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It occurred to me as I was reading this that this hysteria and fear is exactly what was fed to me in my Christian grade school and high school. Muslims are savages. The Ottoman Empire was completely barbaric. And then African countries are even lower on the scale of ignorance and savagery. This is the story the Evangelical right has been drilling into its children for decades.

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This is a strawman article if there ever was one. Bari Weiss’ attacks were aimed at Hamas and its supporters, not at Arabs or Muslims. And the clash of civilizations she refers to is between the theocratic values and postmodernist epistemology versus secular Enlightenment values of individual rights and liberalism. The battle is against the stupid and reductivist "oppresor/oppressed" dichotomy bereft of any moral compass or universal values. The Left's response to Hamas' brutality exposed the horrific view that one's temporary status as "oppressed" seems to justify anything. Question the "oppressed" and the only answer you get is to shut up based not on your ideas, but on your identity and lack of "positionality."

. I have lived in India, China, Brazil and Mexico for many years, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that the divide she refers to does not fall on the racial lines you say. Weiss does not even mention immigration. Did you even read her speech? The overwhelming majority of the nonwhite people I know here in LA through 3 interracial marriages are appalled at what Hamas did and are repelled by postmodernist values. The vast majority of nonwhite people living in the US are glad to be here, despite what elite "POC" activists say.

Stupid "progressive" positions on race and gender are Trump's best friend. Nonwhite membership in the awful GOP is skyrocketing. The Dems need to sober up and distance themselves from the Left fringe before it is too late.

As for the Federalist Society, I am no member as a lawyer, but I can tell you one thing--it would be a hell of a lot easier to live as a free gay person under Federalist Society leadership than under Hamas. Hamas makes the Federalist Society look positively humane. The problem with almost all decolonization movements since the 50s is that they produce far more oppressive regimes than the ones they replaced. I invite you to live under one of them. I suggest Zimbabwe, where my daughter recently worked. It's literally hell to live there.

I am a lifelong liberal Democrat and the Progressive Left has seriously lost its way in the last 12 years or so. And there are MANY people who think just like me.

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