The New York Times has a deep dive into why no one stopped the Maine shooter before his spree. His family, his Army unit, and the local police, knew that he’d had a mental health breakdown, an alcohol problem, and had literally said “I’m going to shoot people with my guns,” in the months and weeks before the shooting.
It's even better (I live 30 minutes south of Lewiston) - his brother convinced him to put his firearms in his gun safe and he (the brother) changed the combo, but then he got a key to re-open it. And of course nothing stopped him from buying more weapons (which he apparently did).
"But the NYPD, funded at $12" - minor typo, I assume it's $12 billion.
This is a case where it's hard to think through how post-abolition systems would deal with the situation, but hopefully we would deal with it in community and have patterns of support in place to help the warnings of relatives have real community power... instead of any warnings echoing into a giant hole we're shoveling money into, but too afraid to look at too closely.
There are several weak links in the chain of stopping shooters from mass killing, and police failure to act is certainly one of them. Like other recent incidents, this one again shows the absurdity of the NRA's refrain that "the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." If the bad guy's gun is a military assault rifle, there are only a few seconds between the moment the shots ring out and the moment when the killing is done, which is never enough time for these "good guys with guns" to do anything about it.
Imagine the in action concerning crimes against victims they have a police record. Far greater than any departmental in action concerning active crimes. I'm involved with myself. After being shot I realized my shooter had to be one of two people and identified them to the Kansas City police department and they will not even investigate. No indictment no warrant no nothing. And, no way to effectively demand department to do it's job.
It's even better (I live 30 minutes south of Lewiston) - his brother convinced him to put his firearms in his gun safe and he (the brother) changed the combo, but then he got a key to re-open it. And of course nothing stopped him from buying more weapons (which he apparently did).
That's horrifying.
"But the NYPD, funded at $12" - minor typo, I assume it's $12 billion.
This is a case where it's hard to think through how post-abolition systems would deal with the situation, but hopefully we would deal with it in community and have patterns of support in place to help the warnings of relatives have real community power... instead of any warnings echoing into a giant hole we're shoveling money into, but too afraid to look at too closely.
There are several weak links in the chain of stopping shooters from mass killing, and police failure to act is certainly one of them. Like other recent incidents, this one again shows the absurdity of the NRA's refrain that "the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." If the bad guy's gun is a military assault rifle, there are only a few seconds between the moment the shots ring out and the moment when the killing is done, which is never enough time for these "good guys with guns" to do anything about it.
Everyone is a godsend guy with a gun um until the moment they turn from good guy to bad guy with a gun.
Imagine the in action concerning crimes against victims they have a police record. Far greater than any departmental in action concerning active crimes. I'm involved with myself. After being shot I realized my shooter had to be one of two people and identified them to the Kansas City police department and they will not even investigate. No indictment no warrant no nothing. And, no way to effectively demand department to do it's job.